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Start the clock.

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Thank you, people.

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Great to see you.

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Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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All right, please.

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Thank you so much. I know you're so glad
you're in a good

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mood. Thank you very much. Thank you. I
know why you're happy today.

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Because Trump said today we will not be
using nuclear weapons in Iran.

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I didn't know that was on the table, but
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That's great.

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this is a runway. It's gotten a little
Groundhog Day, isn't it? It's always

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of the same story every week. We're
seizing their boats. They're seizing our

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boats. It's less like a war and more
like a Florida divorce.

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It's kind of become a war of

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you block me. No, I block you.

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Straight or hermose, you think you can
fuck it up? We could fuck it up.

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That's our plan now, is to win slowly by
destroying their economy.

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Hopefully their economy.

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Yeah, it was Earth Day this week, but we
found out we still use a lot of oil.

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Nobody can afford gas. This week, Tiger
Woods crashed his bicycle.

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Eric Swalwell has been turning off the
engine of the car when he gets blown.

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Really?

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Still some residual affection for Eric
Swalwell? Oh, wow.

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Okay. But it's not just gas. It turns
out everything is made of petroleum

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products. Did you see this week?
Condoms.

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Who knew condoms? Condoms, yes.

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They're getting trapped in the Strait of
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So, condoms are now very scarce and very
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More bad news from Mike Vrabel.

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The condom situation is so serious that
we are changing the name from Operation

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Epic Fury to The Trojan War.

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And yet, and yet, lately, Trump on the
war has been so chill.

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Have you noticed that? I know, it's not
like him to veer erratically.

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But, you know, a couple of weeks ago, it
was, if you don't do what he would say

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today, I'm going to destroy your
civilization, bomb the shit out of you.

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You think your pencils and dolls are
expensive. Whoa.

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And now it's like, is it really a war?

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It's more of a situation, really, I
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And the problem is, he keeps saying we
won, and we didn't.

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We didn't. Hormuz is not open. The
people did not do an uprising.

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The regime is still in place. We did not
win, sorry.

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And in social media, he keeps rubbing
their noses in the victory we don't

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Every day... Every day, he bleeps out

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stuff that's inflammatory and
contradictory, all these bullshit

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I got to say, you can say what you want
about his negotiating tactics. One

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tactic you can't get him on is the
silent treatment.

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Turns out the one thing we are really
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their leaders who are too stupid to go
underground when we're trying to kill

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them. That's what we've got. The current
Ayatollah, who's the son of the old

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Ayatollah, turns out he's very gravely
wounded, he was badly burned, can hardly

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speak. When he sentences people to death
now, he used to do it with a look.

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Very sad.

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Oh, and in the middle of this war,
here's big news,

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Pete Hegseth fired a white guy.

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Yeah, the Secretary of the Navy. And,
wow, this guy must have done some bad

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shit. That doesn't happen a lot with
Pete Hegseth.

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But it was either a war crime or,
knowing that administration, there was a

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picture of him with huge fake balloon
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of talk this week about drinking in the
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which is ironic because Trump is a
complete teetotaler, but, you know, Pete

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Hegseth? There were some rumors about
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Head of the FBI, Kash Patel. He is suing
the Atlantic.

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He denies it, but they wrote an article
saying he drinks too much. The labor

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secretary this week resigned amid
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job, that she had an affair with her
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and was, you know, going on trips, and I
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of a party girl.

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Well, because she once said, as Labor
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first priority is to improve working
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That's an invitation I said.

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And...

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And here's exciting news. The Michael
Jackson movie opens today.

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Showings are 7, 9, and 11.

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Just like the victims. All right. We've
got a great show. We have Sarah Isger

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and Chris Plummer here. But first up,
he's a best -selling author and a U .S.

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Army veteran. And he currently serves as
the 63rd governor of Maryland, Governor

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Wes Moore.

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Governor, how are you? Good to see you
again. Good to see you again.

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All right.

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Look at that.

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Look at, you're loved here in
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It's nice out here. You're in
California. You're on real time. You

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running for president.

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funny because, you know, the GOP is like
historically unpopular now, and yet

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every week I have people on this show,
Josh Shapiro, Alyssa Slotkin, you know,

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you, Gavin Newsom is here next week,
Andy Beshear. No one's running.

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No one's running. It's going to be a
great opportunity.

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Maybe I should do it because no one
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Well, no, listen.

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I think I've always said, you know,
everybody can do what they want.

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But my thing is this, is that my state
is under assault right now.

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You know, I've had over 31 ,000 people
fired in the past year by Donald Trump

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and J .D. Vance, federal workers.

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That's because a lot of federal workers
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live in Maryland. The federal government
is there. Yeah, and people who have the

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audacity of doing things like making
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our planes are not colliding or giving
veterans like myself, making sure they

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can get the medication that they need.
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Trump... And J .D. Vance went out to
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battle is now.

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Our battle is now.

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Well, I mean, I do think the midterms
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Democrats are going to just clean up.

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I mean, I guess the question is, how do
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I don't think they can blow it. I'm not
worried about that. But my point is,

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what does that mean?

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Right. I mean, like, listen, I think
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can win Congress.

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But but what then are we going to do?

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Because we have to be very clear. And I
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perspective where I mean, I don't come
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You know, I come from a family, frankly,
who's used to suffering the

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consequences of policies and not used to
making them.

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And when you ask many members of my
family about bad policies that we've had

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deal with my entire life.

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they couldn't tell you if a Democrat was
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author. They just know it was just a
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And so I just think that we need to make
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what in many ways is just a completely
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However, our job just can't be to

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now we can put back.

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We've actually got to figure out what
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What does it mean to actually create a
society that people can actually root

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for? What does it mean to make sure that
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afford and making sure that people can
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wondering, are my kids going to be okay?

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What does it mean to make sure that we
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neighborhoods? So, like, if the goal of
all of this in November is to say, yes,

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we can now, you know, do subpoenas
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the American people are going to look at
us and say that's not enough. What

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policies are you talking about?

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You said I hurt you.

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This one, I mean, Obamacare, that
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Okay. Medicare, Social Security, I mean,
that's going back a ways. But the 1964

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Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act,
I mean, even the EPA creation.

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I mean, these are policies the
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not all.

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What are you talking about?

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So I'm talking about, like, for example,
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of the state of Maryland, it's just
simply saying, are you going to do what

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say you're going to do?

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So, for example, in my state, when I
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to invest in child care because it is a
ridiculous issue of parents that are

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trying to figure out, can I go back to
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are going to be okay? And so that's why
in Maryland we've made the largest

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investments in child care scholarships
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Right? When we said that we're going to
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And because housing is too expensive all
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Maryland. And I said, well, you know
what? Who's the largest landowner in the

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state of Maryland? Guess what? It's the
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So I said, then you know what? We're
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-owned land and land that is near
transit, near trains, near buses. I want

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access to all that land, and we are
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land to give more housing for people.

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This is about what are we doing to be
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going out to these corporations and
these supermarkets who are price gouging

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people when they walk into supermarkets.
We made Maryland the first state in the

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country that now bans price gouging and
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So when you go into a supermarket, they
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go to the checkout counter. So you'd
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New York, which is city run. I mean,
that's what Mayor, what, I see you

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Yeah, no, no, no. And I say good, laugh,
because that's ridiculous.

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But that's what they're doing.

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And, of course, we find out now that the
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where the city plans to put their
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they're like, well, of course, how are
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But, you know, Mayor Mondami, that's
extreme socialism.

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Some would say communism.

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So you're not for that because I feel
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now. One would be.

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Democratic Socialists. That's the term
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Montambi is one. Bernie Sanders.

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I mean, there are several others. AOC.
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Democratic Classic.

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Which are you?

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Well, I'm going to be very honest. I
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didn't choose me.

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Right. When I ran for governor, the
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try to stop me.

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It just happened the people of Maryland
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people of Maryland made me the governor.
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maybe the government.

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And I like that because there is no, I
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just swallow a party ideology, you're
probably not thinking hard enough. And I

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don't care what party. But what I want
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But when I talk about what are the
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focusing on when it comes to us, I
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is this, we have to stop being the party
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party of yes and now.

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Start being the party that actually
moves to address with the kind of

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that people are requesting. If I'm
telling you that, listen, the school

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kids are attending is not preparing them
for college or career.

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I don't want to hear you tell me, and
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study on it. Okay, but you mentioned
scholarships before. And, I mean, this

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something Democrats, they are the party
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So they should either own it for good or
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Absolutely. Okay, but like in
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president.

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He's eliminated the need for a degree,

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a college degree.

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I've done that, too. You have done that,
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Yeah, because, I mean, because listen.

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We have eliminated this idea that
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schools is based on your four -year
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Because that's not the right, that's an
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we should be looking at. So we've
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the amount of slots in trade programs
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people so that we believe in our four
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if someone doesn't want to go to a four
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sure they have a path for long -term
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And so we have allowed...

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we've allowed these four -year colleges
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as if they are the end -all and be -all.

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And frankly, I mean, I think Einstein, I
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you tell a fish that the definition of
genius is climbing a tree, then that

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will always feel like it's insufficient.

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We need to make sure that all of our
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place for them and there's a place for
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what academic path they choose to go
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Okay, so...

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Governor Newsom here. I think he's on
our show next week. Also not running for

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president. He said if the Democrats want
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to be what was more culturally normal.

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How do you interpret that statement?

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And would you agree with that?

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Listen, I don't.

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What I would say is that.

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The Democrats don't have a messaging
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We have a results problem.

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There's a results problem when we are
turning around and not producing the

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of results with the kind of speed that
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And you know who exploited that
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Donald Trump.

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Because Donald Trump, Donald Trump was a
fantastic vessel for the frustration,

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right? He points things out like nobody
else's business.

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He's just not a vehicle for the
solution.

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Donald Trump was the one who was
pointing out, you know what, we've done

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this work around electric vehicles and
all this kind of thing and passed a big

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bill around it. And do you know how many
electric charging stations we had by

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December of 2024?

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37.

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He pointed that out.

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He pointed out the fact that we are now
still watching inflation continue to

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rise. Now, he's done nothing but watch
inflation rise under him as well.

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But again, he's a fantastic vessel for
the frustration.

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I have an honest belief, and I think
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the Army when I was 17 years old, and
there's a philosophy we learned when I

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17, leave no one behind.

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I think if the Democratic Party can
continue to embrace this idea of leave

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one behind and making sure we can move
with the speed and urgency that people

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don't feel like they're being left
behind, then we're not going to have an

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electoral problem again. And you've
actually just fixed your messaging

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by actually addressing with real
results. But don't you think the

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a problem with their primaries? I mean,
everybody does because it only

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the far extreme wing of the party.
That's true of the Republicans, true. I

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if you were to run for president, I'm
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But you would have to get through the
primary process. Now, we talked about

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when we had lunch at my friend's
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I said, I think you're a great one to do
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wear the magic armor.

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It's just the truth.

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that a black candidate can say things
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the Democratic Party than a white
candidate. Would you agree with that?

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I think that the closed primary process
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You know, because I think the problem is
the fastest growing political party in

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this country right now is independence.

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It's people who are saying, I do not
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affiliate with Republicans. Here's the
problem.

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Independence.

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cannot vote until November.

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Their voice cannot be heard. And when
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gerrymandering that's taking place, for
example, in the Congress, where over 92

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% of these congressional districts, 92 %
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By November, it doesn't matter.

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And so that's the system that we have.
You have a system where more and more

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people are disenfranchised. More and
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And so I think the whole idea of a
closed primary system is one that has to

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reevaluated. Because if you believe in
democracy, then let people's voices be

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heard. And don't make them have to fill
in with a political partisan.

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All right. Well, you're good at this.

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I never got you down.

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You never got me down, right?

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Governor Westmore, I'll see you after
this show. Coming back for overtime.

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Great. I'll see you again.

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All right.

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Thank you. Let's leave our panel.

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Couldn't get him down. All right.

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Here's the Chris Cuomo Project podcast
on the fastest growing cable news show,

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Cuomo on News Nation. Chris Cuomo is
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Okay, she's the editor of the Dispatch's
SCOTUS blog, whose new book is called

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Last Branch Standing. Sarah Isger.
Sarah, great to have you back.

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Okay.

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Let's take a break from the war this
week, shall we?

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It does seem to be just Groundhog Day.
So this is the big story today. The

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Justice Department is dropping its
criminal investigation of Federal

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Chair Jerome Powell. Now, this gets to
something I want to ask you about,

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because you have this theory that, you
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than people say.

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And I've read that, too.

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Now, the Fed chair, the Fed is, is that
monetary policy or fiscal policy? Right?

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One of them is.

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Okay, we're all stumped on that.

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I was just letting you go. It's monetary
policy. Monetary. Okay, there are two

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different things, but it's important.
And these are one of those norms we

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used to fuck with. But, of course, Trump
fucks with every norm.

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And Jerome Powell, he's the chairman of
the Fed, and he did not do what Trump

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wanted. And Trump has one speed when you
defy him, publicly at least, which is,

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I'm going to kill you.

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So he went after Jerome Powell, you know
what, for redecorating.

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I'm not joking. They were building a new
headquarters, and there were cost

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overruns, like Trump would not know
about cost overruns in buildings.

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So he had his attack dog, Jeanine Pirro,
the U .S. attorney there now, go after

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him. The judge said, essentially, zero
evidence in this case. But it does bring

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up this point. You know, is Trump being
blocked more? I mean, you say it's the

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Supreme Court is doing it, right?

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Yeah, at least.

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he's being blocked at every turn. The
Supreme Court has blocked him on alien

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enemies for immigration.

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They blocked him on federalizing the
National Guard in Chicago. They blocked

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on tariffs.

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They're definitely going to block him on
birthright citizenship.

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The reason that... Mail -in voting? Is
that going to... Mail -in voting is

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coming, although that at least is a...

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statutory question for Congress, in
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The question of whether someone can
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though, that's an executive action.

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Lisa Cook is still a governor on the
Federal Reserve because the Supreme

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blocked President Trump's ability to
remove her.

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But, and this is where I think you and I
might agree, the Supreme Court, the

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lower courts can block Trump every which
way, all these indictments against

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James Comey or law firms or
universities.

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But there is a political cost.

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there is still the fact that then people
are afraid of being sued. People are

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afraid of being indicted, and it changes
their behavior. So he may lose legally

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and still win politically, culturally,
normatively.

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That's not good.

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No, he... Yeah.

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Yeah, I know this personally.

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You know, I mean, a lot of it's in the
media.

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The club you never wanted to join.

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What's it like to be targeted by the
president of the United States?

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It's okay.

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I'd rather be engaged than just not
engaged at all. I think as long as he,

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because he has said once, and I think
he's right about this, he said, what

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people don't get about me is I have no
permanent enemies.

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Like one day you're out, next day you're
in, next day it's like it never

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happened. I'd rather have it that way
and talk to him and keep the dialogue

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going because, you know, I've said many
times, I think we need more people like

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me talking to him. You know, you can

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hyperventilate all you want about what
he does

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is wrong. I agree. It should not be a
government by people of saying.

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He should be home reading the briefing
books like Obama did. But that's not

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going to happen. It is a government by
people are saying, be one of the people

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saying. I would just like, yes, I'm glad
you're talking to me.

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I agree with your point. Although the
problem is when you have a president who

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is talking to someone like you, he's
also talking to Laura Loomer. And if I

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to pick, I'd rather take both of you off
the map.

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You've never been compared to her. Why
me?

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Why would you take me off? Not me, Bill.
I wouldn't take you off. What about me

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should be compared to Laura Loomer?

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I'm saying we get the same ones, and we
get the insane ones.

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You lost them with the Loomer thing.
Yeah, it really lost me there.

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It's all right. I'll show myself off.
You'll be back. You'll be back.

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You've worked yourself back in. I've
been where you are right now. It's a

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cold, but it'll get better.

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So what is the scorecard on backing
Trump? Because a lot of people would say

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Supreme Court, when they ruled that he
had, what was it, complete immunity to

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whatever he wanted? What was the
absolute immunity for actions that

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relate to core or exclusive presidential
powers? That does seem sweeping, no?

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Look, one.

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Shameless plug.

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Sarah's book is really good, The Last
Branch Standing, about what the Supreme

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Court is supposed to be about.

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They are in a jam now because the answer
to your question about whether they're

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checking Trump more is they have to.

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He is doing more absurd bullshit as
president of the United States than we

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ever seen before. We have never had a
president even think about, you know

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I'm going to do? Let me just sign this
right now and change the Constitution.

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Nobody has ever been ignorant and
arrogant enough to try something like

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That I'm going to change birthright
citizenship.

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I don't think that's the way it works
for us anymore.

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They have to check him.

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The problem is, I feel bad for the
people who voted for him because they

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right to want to see the law fair stop.

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They were right to want to see it stop.
You should not use your power to punish

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your political enemy.

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And we saw way too much of it. The
problem is, he's doing more of it than

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And for the DOJ, which, you know, Sarah
was the voice of the DOJ. Glad you're

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not right now, by the way, you know, may
help the book sales.

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But, you know, they usually if you hear,
God forbid, they're looking at you,

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Bill, you better call everybody, you
know, because you got problems. But now

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they lose cases.

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They have like a 97 percent conviction
rate. He's bringing it down. Why? B .S.

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cases that are just political payback.

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James Comey, that was embarrassing.

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What they just did with Powell was
embarrassing.

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And they're losing. What they're doing
with the Southern Poverty Law Center,

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people really are going to believe that
they created the KKK? Okay, so we agree

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that he is being blocked.

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I always said the thing about him that
was just the biggest thing for me, he

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doesn't concede elections.

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If you don't have elections, if you
don't have the peaceful transfer of

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you don't have the country. Another time
the court blocked him, unanimously.

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On what?

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After 2020, right? He appealed and
appealed. Every Federalist Society judge

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no, and the Supreme Court unanimously
was like, get out of here.

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Good. But, I mean, he's very mad at his
own justices now. He said this week,

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certain Republican justices have gone
weak, stupid, and bad.

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I got to get him.

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He knows all the words. All the best
words he knows. My five -year -old knows

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them.

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I've always thought, I mean, look,
justices, whatever judge you are, I

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there's a whole big wall of law books
behind you. I don't think they really go

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to the idea of what does the actual law
say.

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Go by their gut. They go by what they
believe, and then they find a reason in

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one of those law books. It's very much
like the Bible.

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You can find anything you want in the
Bible. And by the way, they're doing a

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Bible reading this week.

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The whole country for our 205th
anniversary, because we're a Christian

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Not really, but that's what they think.
They're all reading the Bible like Trump

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is taking a...

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paragraph or something, or whatever it
is in the Bible, a passage.

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In Texas, they're putting the Ten
Commandments back in school. The Ten

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Commandments are back in the school.

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And the Fifth Circuit judge in Texas
said this is okay?

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Were you on that?

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Yeah, I clerked on the Fifth Circuit for
the judge who wrote that.

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So, look, this is actually another
interesting part. Have I got a book for

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Bill, to read? I think you'll really
like it. What's it called? Last Branch

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Standing Press.

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Thank you.

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This narrative that the court is so
conservative, right, and it's just

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controlled by Trump. The Ninth Circuit
used to be the court that was overturned

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the most. That was the liberal Ninth
Circuit where we are now, California and

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the West.

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That's not the court being overturned
the most by the Supreme Court anymore.

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It's the Fifth Circuit because of cases
like this Ten Commandments case.

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And if you really want to look at what
the court is doing these days and why it

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is, you know.

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So much part of our conversation, why I
can write a book about it, it's because

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Congress isn't doing anything anymore.

445
00:27:56,290 --> 00:27:59,970
So what used to be the Supreme Court
would say yes or no, and then Congress

446
00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:01,490
could just pass a law the next day.

447
00:28:01,690 --> 00:28:04,910
None of us believe that they will do
that. None of us believe that we have

448
00:28:04,910 --> 00:28:06,730
power to amend the Constitution anymore.

449
00:28:06,990 --> 00:28:11,050
So we keep looking to the Supreme Court
to be the last word on things, when in

450
00:28:11,050 --> 00:28:12,690
fact it was supposed to be part of this
dialogue.

451
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:16,310
They're not politically accountable, and
so the pressure builds because we feel

452
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:19,890
like we can't change it. They don't
answer to us. They're not supposed to.

453
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,300
They're counter -majoritarian.

454
00:28:21,580 --> 00:28:25,280
They're supposed to tell all of us to go
buzz off, like they did in Brown v.

455
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,220
Board of Education and West Virginia v.

456
00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:30,460
Barnett. Their worst decisions are the
ones where they went with the majority,

457
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,140
in Dred Scott, in Plessy, in Korematsu.

458
00:28:33,420 --> 00:28:36,140
Buck v. Bell is my favorite, the
eugenicist case, if you haven't read

459
00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:37,920
Yeah, we don't all know those, just by
the way.

460
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,680
I mean, we get it.

461
00:28:44,420 --> 00:28:48,420
We get it. You're the expert. By the
way, Laura Loomer sued me, and I won

462
00:28:48,420 --> 00:28:49,460
week. Oh, man. Okay, okay.

463
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:57,820
No commentary. That's just

464
00:28:57,820 --> 00:28:58,820
a fact. Okay.

465
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,100
Let me go back to the Ten Commandments
just a little bit, because it seems such

466
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:06,080
a clear case that you shouldn't have the
Ten Commandments in a school. The

467
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,420
school is just for learning. It should
be. Now, obviously, the left has fucked

468
00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:11,339
that up, too.

469
00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:13,920
I mean, there's lots of leftist
indoctrination in schools.

470
00:29:14,180 --> 00:29:19,680
So both sides. But this one seems very
clear. I'd also like to ask all the anti

471
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,440
-Semites out there who seem to populate
both the left and the right, who love

472
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,700
the Ten Commandments so much, are you
aware that this is a complete Jew -y

473
00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:27,700
thing?

474
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,420
The Ten Commandments.

475
00:29:31,460 --> 00:29:32,460
Well,

476
00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:33,980
it is.

477
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,140
I mean, it's...

478
00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:40,280
It was written many, many years before
Christ came along. It's just Jews

479
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,440
to Jews about Jews. Chosen people
conversation.

480
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:44,100
Chosen people.

481
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:51,640
I think that you get it in the picture
of the guy who's fighting to put them in

482
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,420
the school is the guy who has some of
the ugliest allegations against him of

483
00:29:56,420 --> 00:30:01,420
immorality. And what we don't want to do
with all these people of faith in our

484
00:30:01,420 --> 00:30:06,060
society, which is great depending on how
you use it, live the Ten Commandments.

485
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:08,060
Show us how you live.

486
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,900
Don't just say what you want us to think
about you. And for Paxton to say, yeah,

487
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,220
I'm going to put the Ten Commandments
in, when he clearly only knows like two

488
00:30:17,220 --> 00:30:22,080
them in terms of his own life, what is
the message for people? All those

489
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,000
kindergartners committing adultery,
really, if they had it up there, maybe

490
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000
wouldn't do it.

491
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,140
Coveting is a big word in lower school
these days. You know, covet, covet. The

492
00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:32,480
kids are crazy about it. All right,
well, before we...

493
00:30:33,740 --> 00:30:37,100
Lose track of time. I did want to
congratulate Trump on one thing this

494
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,900
He'd made it easier to smoke pot.

495
00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:45,420
I've got to say, all of us potluckers
have been asking somebody to make

496
00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:47,060
marijuana less criminalized.

497
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,240
He's got to help with hemp. Hopefully he
does. Well, good luck trying to get

498
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,240
high on hemp.

499
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,940
Some people use it for other things.
It's only useful for other things.

500
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,640
It is a biological cousin.

501
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,580
Of the stuff I smoke. It is not
something you can smoke. It should never

502
00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:07,460
been illegal in the first place. Yeah.
Okay.

503
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,600
But it brings me to the bigger story
that, you know, Trump is a teetotaler.

504
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,300
really does not like liquor because I
think he lost his breath in alcoholism.

505
00:31:16,340 --> 00:31:21,040
Okay. But it turns out that that
administration does not follow the

506
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,220
the boss on this one. I mean, this week
we found out the big story. Kash Patel

507
00:31:26,220 --> 00:31:28,880
is suing the Atlantic because they wrote
this story.

508
00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:33,360
And he denies it. of course, but they
say, you know, he sometimes didn't show

509
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,040
at work because it was too much the
night before.

510
00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:38,720
And then there's, oh, there's that
picture.

511
00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:45,140
Yeah, I mean, we have, I mean, but you
know what? That doesn't say anything. I

512
00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:48,480
don't believe it just because the
Atlantic said it. It might be true, and

513
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,160
they got a picture with a bottle in his
mouth.

514
00:31:50,820 --> 00:31:52,320
We've all had a bottle in our mouth.

515
00:31:54,459 --> 00:31:55,560
When we were babies.

516
00:31:56,780 --> 00:31:59,980
You've never had a beer in your mouth,
Chris. Yeah, but I've never been telling

517
00:31:59,980 --> 00:32:04,040
people I don't drink. You don't have to
worry about it. And then he's literally

518
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,360
downing the whole thing. Take a break.

519
00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:10,640
But does that really... See, this is
just the... Look, do I care if he drinks

520
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,000
not? No. Do I care that you put somebody
who is selling conspiracies about

521
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,560
Epstein into the highest position of
power at the DOJ? Yeah, that bothers me.

522
00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:31,440
All right. So the point is, it is kind
of a boozy administration because I

523
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,020
remember Jeanine Pirro, who's now the U
.S. attorney. I remember when she was on

524
00:32:35,020 --> 00:32:37,820
Fox News. That was always the talk about
her. Again, I don't know if it's true

525
00:32:37,820 --> 00:32:38,439
or not.

526
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440
And then there's the labor secretary.

527
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,600
She quit this week because apparently
the same kind of rumors. And of course,

528
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:50,120
there was always Pete Hegseth. I mean,
those pictures I would agree with. We

529
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,110
don't know. But we thought we, as a PSA,
because we're always trying to do

530
00:32:54,110 --> 00:33:00,010
service to this country, we would want
to put a little guideline to know if you

531
00:33:00,010 --> 00:33:04,210
are part of a too -boozy administration.
Would you like to see if you... These

532
00:33:04,210 --> 00:33:06,790
are just some of the ways you can tell.

533
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:12,330
For example, if among all your
colleagues, no one can remember who

534
00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:13,330
attack on Venezuela.

535
00:33:19,630 --> 00:33:22,530
Cabinet meetings begin at 5 o 'clock
somewhere.

536
00:33:28,390 --> 00:33:33,330
If RFK asked if you'd like to see a dead
raccoon penis and you said yes.

537
00:33:38,570 --> 00:33:42,170
If you got arrested because you were
climbing on the ballroom construction

538
00:33:42,170 --> 00:33:44,610
equipment in the middle of the night.
Yes.

539
00:33:45,890 --> 00:33:47,050
Definitely a sign.

540
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:48,350
Oh.

541
00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:52,170
Here's one. You keep slurring your
ethnic slurs.

542
00:33:57,490 --> 00:34:02,170
If everybody does a shot every time the
Strait of Hormuz opens back up.

543
00:34:04,450 --> 00:34:06,570
That's kind of understandable, that one.

544
00:34:08,650 --> 00:34:12,850
If when you tell a Senate panel, I don't
recall, you actually don't recall.

545
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,000
You appear on Face the Nation with a
dick drawn on your forehead.

546
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,080
Too boozy.

547
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,719
If you wake up on the couch and Lindsey
Graham is making waffles in a bathroom,

548
00:34:32,980 --> 00:34:35,960
that is definitely a sign.

549
00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:40,340
I'm just, it's a public service, people.

550
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,320
And if everyone keeps asking, do you
think Hunter Biden left any more cocaine

551
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,320
lying around?

552
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:54,840
Okay, so... All right, now let's talk
about the big political

553
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,220
bombshell that happened this week, which
was the state of Virginia. They

554
00:34:58,220 --> 00:35:00,600
gerrymandered the fuck out of the state.

555
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,340
And I hate to sound like a five -year
-old, but Trump started it.

556
00:35:06,220 --> 00:35:09,760
He did. I mean, now it's out of control,
but that's just the fact.

557
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:11,420
He started it.

558
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:17,210
He encouraged Texas to do this. And I
thought, like, I had Eric Holder on,

559
00:35:17,210 --> 00:35:19,770
not that many, a couple of years ago.
And it was like, we're going to fix

560
00:35:19,770 --> 00:35:23,170
gerrymandering. We're going to stop it
because, you know, gerrymandering is

561
00:35:23,170 --> 00:35:24,850
not fair. Both sides do it.

562
00:35:25,090 --> 00:35:31,170
And then Trump just, of course, had to
make it worse. So now Virginia, it looks

563
00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:33,570
like it's going to be only the suburbs.

564
00:35:33,790 --> 00:35:38,230
We were talking to the governor of
Maryland there. Only his people, his...

565
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,440
constituents in that area. Those are the
suburbs around D .C. That's part of

566
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,840
Virginia. And they're all mostly they do
work in the government. That's why so

567
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,320
many government workers got fired.

568
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,100
So many people in Maryland got fired
because the government workers, they're

569
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:56,320
going to gerrymander the state. So like
almost all the votes are coming from

570
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,140
there. And the rest of the state's a big
state full of hicks.

571
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,840
And I say that in a not in a mean way.

572
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,180
Hicks are not to be stupid.

573
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,558
You're a hick? Okay.

574
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,560
I live in Virginia.

575
00:36:06,740 --> 00:36:09,900
Yeah, but rural people... Oh, you do?
Yeah, well, that other part.

576
00:36:11,260 --> 00:36:15,060
Which part do you live in? I live right
on the hick to Democrat line.

577
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:20,500
Okay.

578
00:36:25,130 --> 00:36:28,690
But this is just a race to the bottom,
is it not? Because now, I mean,

579
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:32,690
California has done it, Illinois has
done it, Maryland has done it. We're

580
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:36,510
going to get to, it was like the last
pillar of somewhat a resemblance of

581
00:36:36,510 --> 00:36:39,790
democracy that we didn't fully do this,
and now we're just going to do it where

582
00:36:39,790 --> 00:36:42,010
every state is just rigged, rigged.

583
00:36:42,570 --> 00:36:43,570
Okay.

584
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,720
On the one hand, I think it's really
funny to fight over which party should

585
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:50,880
control a branch of government that
doesn't do anything anymore. Like, why

586
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,200
we fighting over Congress?

587
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,320
What's the point?

588
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:56,720
That's a great take on that.

589
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,480
But okay, like, that's a fun, you know,
tug -of -war team jersey thing to play.

590
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:08,460
Virginia used to have a bipartisan,
nonpartisan redistricting commission, so

591
00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:09,860
we're actually getting worse.

592
00:37:10,540 --> 00:37:11,540
But here's the good news.

593
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:16,680
In order to gerrymander this hard in all
of these states, you actually do have

594
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,600
to make the districts more competitive.

595
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,800
So in a wave election, like what we're
planning to have this fall, where

596
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Democrats will take... What do you mean,
make it more competitive? Well, each

597
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,640
district gets...

598
00:37:29,470 --> 00:37:33,150
gerrymandered to make sure that
Democrats can win, but instead of

599
00:37:33,150 --> 00:37:38,650
seats by, you know, 80%, now they can
only win them by 54%, 55%. Oh, I see,

600
00:37:38,830 --> 00:37:44,050
right. So in a wave election, the water
would swamp you out. So Texas, my home

601
00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:47,370
state, Trump pressured them into doing
it like you said. They started this.

602
00:37:48,110 --> 00:37:51,930
They're actually quite likely to lose
many of the seats they gerrymandered if

603
00:37:51,930 --> 00:37:55,350
the Democratic wave gets high enough.
They will be underwater.

604
00:37:55,650 --> 00:38:00,150
And in a year where there's a Republican
wave, these Virginia seats will

605
00:38:00,150 --> 00:38:03,910
actually be lost by Democrats. So, like,
maybe, again, I don't know what we're

606
00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:06,730
fighting over. Again, a branch that,
like, sits on Instagram and, like, takes

607
00:38:06,730 --> 00:38:08,310
pictures of themselves and says $75?

608
00:38:09,010 --> 00:38:11,370
So glad one party controls that. Phew!

609
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:13,910
Wow. Oh, come on.

610
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,380
If the Democrats have the kind of
success a lot of us think they're going

611
00:38:21,380 --> 00:38:24,200
have in the midterms, you don't think
that's going to make a difference? You

612
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,540
don't think that's going to be
different? If the Democrats control all

613
00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:31,400
committees in that Congress? They will
not pass so much more not passing of

614
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,780
legislation. You're right. Wow.

615
00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:36,860
They'll do oversight and they'll have
hearings where they do more Instagram

616
00:38:36,860 --> 00:38:40,600
reels to raise more money. They're not
going to actually use the power of the

617
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,620
purse, pass legislation.

618
00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:45,020
They might impeach someone. They're
certainly not going to convict them in

619
00:38:45,020 --> 00:38:48,000
Senate, so it'll be another great...
That's the one thing they can't do is

620
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,980
impeach. You're right. They can't
impeach. They cannot remove.

621
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,799
That's the problem.

622
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,900
Okay, well, nobody cares about that.
Well, but I'll tell you when you care is

623
00:38:55,900 --> 00:39:00,000
when you see six months of your life
vanish because you're watching that

624
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,020
unfold and you know how it's going to
end when you've been through it twice

625
00:39:03,020 --> 00:39:06,660
before, and they're doing it for the
same reason they do the gerrymandering,

626
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:10,660
which is... All that matters to these
people now is the retention of their own

627
00:39:10,660 --> 00:39:14,800
power. And I think the reason it's
important this is happening is for

628
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,560
see what the governor was talking about.

629
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,200
Independent is the fastest growing part
of the electorate for a reason, which is

630
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,200
they hate the party.

631
00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:25,960
And the more people are anti -party, the
better a chance we have that anything

632
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,960
gets better.

633
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:29,100
Although on the flip side...

634
00:39:32,910 --> 00:39:36,230
we're talking about this on the flip
side the reason so independents now are

635
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:40,250
more than republican or democrats for
the first time in american history more

636
00:39:40,250 --> 00:39:43,750
people don't identify with a political
party i would argue it's because we

637
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:47,810
have political parties anymore we got
rid of them with campaign finance reform

638
00:39:47,810 --> 00:39:52,960
in 2002 which sounds like a good idea,
but it means there is no one keeping all

639
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,600
of the inmates in the asylum anymore.

640
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,220
The parties have no carrots, no sticks
to keep these people in line, no policy

641
00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:02,800
agenda. There's no policy platform for
either party.

642
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,780
Donald Trump defeated the Republican
Party before he defeated the Democratic

643
00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:07,940
Party in 2016.

644
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:12,720
That's because we don't have political
parties, and I loved not having

645
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,040
parties until I saw the result now, and
I'm like, this isn't better.

646
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:18,580
But all his original fans are turning on
him.

647
00:40:18,940 --> 00:40:24,620
Have you seen that? I mean, this week,
Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson both

648
00:40:24,620 --> 00:40:31,420
renounced the leader, as has Candace
Owens did it, Alex Jones,

649
00:40:31,780 --> 00:40:37,260
all the people. All the people I look to
for advice. I know. I respect how

650
00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:42,440
seriously you're laying this out. I do.
I do. But just think about what it says

651
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,440
about where we are.

652
00:40:44,070 --> 00:40:48,450
That we are in a place where we are
looking at Candace Owens and Tucker

653
00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:51,970
and Joe Rogan as bellwethers of our
political status.

654
00:40:52,490 --> 00:40:57,150
You know, like, wow, Rogan, what am I
going to do now that he's not with

655
00:40:57,270 --> 00:41:01,850
It's like we are in mouth breather land
in terms of how we formulate our

656
00:41:01,850 --> 00:41:06,150
positions. It's like, oh, Tucker
Carlson, he got attacked by a demon last

657
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:09,930
in his bedroom, but now he's in the
light about Trump. I don't know how to

658
00:41:11,710 --> 00:41:12,730
It's a weird place.

659
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:14,050
We're in a weird place.

660
00:41:15,870 --> 00:41:20,590
I never thought I would say that. Wow,
Tucker Carlson. Yeah, Trump's going to

661
00:41:20,590 --> 00:41:21,288
have a problem.

662
00:41:21,290 --> 00:41:24,310
He's going to have a problem keeping the
faithful in there. He's got Joe Rogan,

663
00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:27,630
you know, the psychedelics, you know.
Thank God he had that.

664
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:30,170
Otherwise, he would have lost them
completely. I think there's a difference

665
00:41:30,170 --> 00:41:33,810
between Joe Rogan and Candace Owens and
Alex Jones. I do. I think there's a bit

666
00:41:33,810 --> 00:41:34,810
of a difference. I hope so.

667
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:41,240
Well, I don't know he's apparently going
to the Trump is the Correspondents

668
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:44,340
dinner this year I would I'm very
interested to see what this is going to

669
00:41:44,340 --> 00:41:47,850
like because you know the correspondence
dinner that I think I did it one year.

670
00:41:47,890 --> 00:41:51,730
They used to have comedians. By the way,
I said that because I got shit about

671
00:41:51,730 --> 00:41:54,170
it. Everybody, every comedian gets shit
about it. It's the worst gig in the

672
00:41:54,170 --> 00:41:56,810
world because half the people in the
audience are Republican, half are the

673
00:41:56,810 --> 00:41:59,450
Democrats. You can insult anybody,
whatever, what they say.

674
00:41:59,770 --> 00:42:01,850
So they always, I said, just get a
magician.

675
00:42:02,210 --> 00:42:05,710
Just get somebody who doesn't do
political. They're always trying to get

676
00:42:05,710 --> 00:42:08,970
political, and it's like the worst
thing. Now they got a mentalist.

677
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:11,530
So they can have a mentalist and a
mental patient there.

678
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:16,280
I kid. I joke with the president.

679
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,480
But, you know, the president
traditionally, I mean, this is why

680
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,200
people say this is why he ran for
president in the first place, because he

681
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,400
at the one where Obama just tore him a
new asshole from the podium, and now

682
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,960
going to get a chance to say all sorts
of insulting things to the press, just

683
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,720
like any one of his press conferences,
so it's not really that different.

684
00:42:38,410 --> 00:42:41,550
I agreed to do this show so I could
avoid that dinner tomorrow night. So

685
00:42:41,550 --> 00:42:42,890
you so much. Oh, really?

686
00:42:43,090 --> 00:42:44,090
Yeah.

687
00:42:45,170 --> 00:42:48,290
I wasn't invited.

688
00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:51,770
No, I wasn't. But I wouldn't have gone
if they had invited me. I want you to

689
00:42:51,770 --> 00:42:53,770
know that right now. Right. I would have
said no.

690
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:56,410
I'm going to give that tuxedo back right
away.

691
00:42:57,850 --> 00:42:59,570
Blue. But he, I mean.

692
00:43:00,740 --> 00:43:03,880
It's kind of interesting because, you
know, when I look at the list of

693
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:10,780
paramounts, which now apparently owns
me, paid $16 million

694
00:43:10,780 --> 00:43:15,980
to settle a lawsuit. You know, this is
the media that he's talking to here over

695
00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:18,220
the 60 Minutes interview with Kamala
Harris.

696
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:23,380
Disney, one of my other old sponsors
that fired me once.

697
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,160
agreed to pay $16 million over the
George Stephanopoulos interview. I mean,

698
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,400
famously took Jimmy Kimmel off the air
for a while. I mean, it's a little

699
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,820
awkward, him speaking to the people who
he also calls the enemy of the American

700
00:43:37,820 --> 00:43:43,980
people. He literally calls them the
enemy, which I find to be, I would be

701
00:43:43,980 --> 00:43:46,920
personally affronted by it, but, you
know, he does that to everybody.

702
00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:48,740
But it is the fourth estate.

703
00:43:49,180 --> 00:43:52,960
I mean, when you take on the press like
that, I think you are flirting with

704
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,580
something that really knocks out one of
the pillars of what we love about this

705
00:43:56,580 --> 00:44:02,140
country. Well, look, I think that we all
get it. We just don't know how anything

706
00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:03,620
gets better anymore.

707
00:44:03,860 --> 00:44:05,200
And I don't have any problem.

708
00:44:05,710 --> 00:44:06,589
With nerd prom.

709
00:44:06,590 --> 00:44:09,630
You know, I get that people like to get
dressed up. They like to go.

710
00:44:09,850 --> 00:44:12,150
Is that what you call it? Nerd prom?
Yeah, everybody.

711
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:15,350
Hollywood for ugly people. Yeah, that's
right. But we've always called it.

712
00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:19,450
It's the nerd prom, and that's great.
That's great. Well, I wasn't invited,

713
00:44:19,450 --> 00:44:20,450
know. I'm too good looking.

714
00:44:20,490 --> 00:44:24,670
So, you know, what I think you'll see
there also, Bill, is how manufactured

715
00:44:24,670 --> 00:44:26,550
is. The division is manufactured.

716
00:44:27,090 --> 00:44:30,450
Trump hates you, as you said, until he
doesn't. And he's going to go there, and

717
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:31,450
he's going to get laughed.

718
00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:34,900
And you'll see that all these people who
are there who are saying, you know,

719
00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:37,780
they are not real journalists and this
isn't real one. They're all getting

720
00:44:37,780 --> 00:44:39,020
along. It's a club.

721
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,680
And once you understand that, you
realize why things don't change.

722
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,540
I mean, again, to bring this back to the
Supreme Court a little, that's the

723
00:44:52,540 --> 00:44:55,260
branch that is functioning. That's the
branch that gets along.

724
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,240
They actually spend time together. They
have lunch three, four times a week

725
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:02,480
after they have oral argument where they
are not allowed to talk about work.

726
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,720
They have to talk about sports or what
their kids are majoring in.

727
00:45:07,150 --> 00:45:10,970
Amy Coney Barrett loved binge -watching
Slow Horses. She was super pumped about

728
00:45:10,970 --> 00:45:11,948
the new season.

729
00:45:11,950 --> 00:45:15,710
Like, this is a good thing for people to
actually have to see each other as

730
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:19,890
humans. And I hope that's what happens
at the White House Correspondents'

731
00:45:19,890 --> 00:45:25,670
Dinner. I read that reality TV
viewership is plummeting, and I think

732
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:29,610
downstream from culture, and I hope we
are turning the ship slowly away from

733
00:45:29,610 --> 00:45:30,650
reality politics.

734
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:33,490
All right, let's end on that positive
note.

735
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,660
All right, thank you, and you're both
beautiful people. It's time for new

736
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,380
everybody. New rules.

737
00:45:42,060 --> 00:45:43,060
Okay,

738
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:46,799
new rule.

739
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,460
Don't make your baby spout your
political opinions for you.

740
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:52,540
You don't know what that kid believes.

741
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,140
He looks pretty MAGA to me.

742
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:03,660
I say to babies what right -wingers say
to athletes. Shut up and dribble.

743
00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:13,300
No, really, if you complain about
Columbus Day because it ignores the fact

744
00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:17,520
he killed Indians and you complain about
President's Day because it ignores the

745
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,220
fact that Washington owned slaves, then
you can't happily go see a movie where

746
00:46:22,220 --> 00:46:24,120
Michael Jackson doesn't sleep with kids.

747
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:34,580
Which is the movie that's out now where
we just hear about the fun things

748
00:46:34,580 --> 00:46:38,420
Michael did. It's playing on a double
bill with Jeffrey Epstein, super host

749
00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:42,540
extraordinaire, and John Wayne Gacy,
thanks for the laugh.

750
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:54,440
Now that Red Lobster is reviving its
endless shrimp deal, two years after

751
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,360
stopped doing it because it had led to
an $11 million loss, they must tell

752
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,860
How can this work financially?

753
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,620
Unless you're planning to sell some
outdated stash of frozen shrimp that

754
00:47:05,620 --> 00:47:07,120
had on ice since 2009.

755
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,400
Oh, I see.

756
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Let's all give President Trump credit
where credit is due for forcing Iran to

757
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,120
call off their scheduled execution of
these women protesters.

758
00:47:23,710 --> 00:47:27,450
It was the right thing to do, and it
sends a powerful message to the world.

759
00:47:27,450 --> 00:47:33,530
you're a woman in Iran and you look hot,
at least an eight, America has your

760
00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:34,530
back.

761
00:47:41,850 --> 00:47:45,770
You know, shopping in the grocery store
has to stop making me feel like I'm

762
00:47:45,770 --> 00:47:47,290
flirting with statutory rape.

763
00:47:48,190 --> 00:47:51,050
What's with very young, small, sweet
peas?

764
00:47:55,010 --> 00:47:59,490
Tater tots and baby carrots and extra
virgin olive oil.

765
00:48:01,930 --> 00:48:06,150
Gee, if I wanted to feel this pervy,
I'll go see the Michael Jackson movie.

766
00:48:12,450 --> 00:48:17,890
And finally, new rule. Someone has to
explain the American economy to me. I

767
00:48:17,890 --> 00:48:20,290
I've said this before. I still don't get
it.

768
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:26,960
Last week was tax day, and as usual,
because HBO is so generous, and I'm sure

769
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:33,820
will be the new owners, I paid to the
government, if you add in state tax,

770
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:40,460
local sales, property fees, Obamacare,
probably almost 60 % of what I earn.

771
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,940
That's a lot. And I still wouldn't mind
if Bernie Sanders would stop saying the

772
00:48:45,940 --> 00:48:47,140
rich don't pay taxes.

773
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,580
And while I'm sure the super rich, with
their army of accountants and corporate

774
00:48:57,580 --> 00:49:02,520
loopholes, get away with murder, us
regular rich people pay a shit ton of

775
00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:06,700
And who stands up and gives us a pat on
the back? Nobody, that's who.

776
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:20,740
The top 10 % pay 72 % of all federal
income taxes, and the bottom half,

777
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:27,640
3%. The democratic socialists talk about
socialism like we don't already have a

778
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,360
lot. Social security, unemployment,
Medicare, nutritional assistance,

779
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:37,860
Obamacare, disability, housing
subsidies. Again, not against it. Just

780
00:49:37,860 --> 00:49:42,860
question. How can you be soaking the
rich and failing the poor so badly?

781
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,920
So badly that on 60 Minutes last week,
they were redoing the story they did 18

782
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,840
years ago about remote area medical.

783
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,500
That is the program modeled after
medical teams that drop into the poorest

784
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:07,040
countries in the world for a few days to
set up a tent where people with no

785
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,840
access to health care can get some.

786
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:11,260
And now we're one of those countries.

787
00:50:11,740 --> 00:50:13,020
Doctors within borders.

788
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:26,260
How can it be that the federal
government alone took in over $5

789
00:50:26,260 --> 00:50:28,320
taxes last year and we still need that?

790
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,180
Are we really this incompetent and
corrupt? Don't answer that.

791
00:50:33,820 --> 00:50:39,380
Whatever it is, somehow the ultra -rich
keep getting ultra -richer while a

792
00:50:39,380 --> 00:50:43,260
growing percentage is feeling truly
desperate. You just wouldn't know it

793
00:50:43,260 --> 00:50:45,100
everyone on TV is rich.

794
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,720
Reality TV, rich women day drinking.

795
00:50:49,530 --> 00:50:51,810
Drama, rich women whose friend got
murdered.

796
00:50:53,010 --> 00:50:55,490
Comedy, rich men shouting into cell
phones.

797
00:50:56,770 --> 00:51:01,210
But these are the people with all the
money. Get this, the richest one -tenth

798
00:51:01,210 --> 00:51:03,190
now does half of all the spending.

799
00:51:03,550 --> 00:51:09,390
Somehow we created an economy where the
number of households worth $20 million

800
00:51:09,390 --> 00:51:13,530
or more is 644 ,000.

801
00:51:14,670 --> 00:51:16,650
Wow, that's a lot of people with $20
million.

802
00:51:17,070 --> 00:51:21,050
And all of them are looking for a
girlfriend on sugarbabies .com.

803
00:51:29,710 --> 00:51:34,470
Corporations go where the money is. Las
Vegas used to be the town of $8 all -you

804
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:37,670
-can -eat buffets and hotels where every
room was $29.

805
00:51:38,310 --> 00:51:40,910
Nope, not anymore. Go fuck yourself. We
don't want you.

806
00:51:42,030 --> 00:51:45,030
Their business model now is they only
want the high rollers.

807
00:51:45,370 --> 00:51:49,010
Are you a whale? No? Then float yourself
back out to sea.

808
00:51:56,530 --> 00:52:00,310
Who that is not rich could afford a
concert now?

809
00:52:01,150 --> 00:52:05,390
Woodstock was free. Now if you want to
see Morgan Wallen, you have to take out

810
00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:06,810
second mortgage on your trailer.

811
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:10,960
I kid the hicks.

812
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,100
I love the hicks.

813
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:18,720
Disneyland, for a family of four to
spend the weekend.

814
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,640
Between the cost of the ticket, plus
lodging, airfare, rental car, souvenirs,

815
00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:26,560
food, we're talking ten grand.

816
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,680
To afford that, the average dad would
have to be cooking meth on the side.

817
00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:44,770
The, uh... Disneyland's staff manual
used to read, we roll out the red carpet

818
00:52:44,770 --> 00:52:49,510
for the Jones family from Joliet just as
we would for the Eisenhowers from Palm

819
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:51,670
Springs. No, you don't.

820
00:52:52,190 --> 00:52:57,050
Because the Eisenhowers from Palm
Springs can buy a Lightning Lane Premier

821
00:52:57,050 --> 00:53:01,430
that lets you skip the lines. The Jones
family can suck my dick.

822
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,100
And Mickey could give a rat's ass.

823
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:18,580
Because that's what our economy has
become.

824
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:24,260
In 1992, a Lego speedboat toy set cost
$2 .99.

825
00:53:24,780 --> 00:53:28,700
Today, Lego sells Titanic for $680.

826
00:53:29,860 --> 00:53:33,360
It's an educational toy because you
learn it sucks to be poor.

827
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:40,340
And nowhere is that more true than when
it comes to health care.

828
00:53:40,890 --> 00:53:45,950
Money can't buy happiness, but it sure
can buy healthiness. Half the country

829
00:53:45,950 --> 00:53:52,230
buy access to concierge doctors,
specialists, new treatments, personal

830
00:53:52,550 --> 00:53:57,210
nutritionists, private chefs, and
whatever Gwyneth Paltrow is putting in

831
00:53:57,210 --> 00:53:58,210
vagina.

832
00:54:07,150 --> 00:54:11,670
And the other half has the place I was
just talking about, Remote Area Medical,

833
00:54:11,830 --> 00:54:16,430
the pop -up health care clinic that
rolls into town once a year like a

834
00:54:16,430 --> 00:54:21,330
fair, except instead of riding the tilt
-a -whirl, a volunteer doctor pulls your

835
00:54:21,330 --> 00:54:22,330
infected tooth.

836
00:54:22,570 --> 00:54:27,550
And the saddest thing in the 60 Minutes
piece is that nothing has changed.

837
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,900
since they covered it in 2008.

838
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,740
Same line of cars parked overnight so
people make sure to get seen.

839
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:40,020
Same people who work two jobs but still
can't afford to see a doctor unless a

840
00:54:40,020 --> 00:54:43,100
touring nonprofit sets up shop in a
parking lot.

841
00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:47,400
But here's the truth. You're not going
to get health care to these people by

842
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,620
threatening to tap and eat the rich.

843
00:54:50,020 --> 00:54:53,400
You raise billionaire taxes, they just
leave the state.

844
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,180
Or they leave the country. Or in some
cases, the planet.

845
00:55:04,330 --> 00:55:08,210
I kid Elon, but you know, he had a good
idea recently that might be apropos

846
00:55:08,210 --> 00:55:13,290
here. During the recent government
shutdown, he volunteered to pay all the

847
00:55:13,290 --> 00:55:15,850
workers himself. You know, with couch
money.

848
00:55:18,650 --> 00:55:24,030
That's how super rich our super rich
are. They can single -handedly fund

849
00:55:24,030 --> 00:55:25,230
government programs.

850
00:55:25,730 --> 00:55:27,850
Okay, so let's make that a thing.

851
00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:31,290
The Adopt -a -Cause Challenge for
Billionaires.

852
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,940
Teachers who buy school supplies with
their own money or people without homes

853
00:55:43,940 --> 00:55:48,700
disaster victims, whatever it is, make
the rich folks competitive about solving

854
00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:51,820
it because that's all they care about
anyway, beating each other.

855
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,760
Yeah.

856
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,620
Just... Skip the middleman. The
government and the health care

857
00:56:01,620 --> 00:56:05,080
that, for whatever reason, no matter how
much they take in, never seem to get

858
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,020
enough to the people and just shame the
billionaires into doing it directly

859
00:56:09,020 --> 00:56:14,000
because they have all the money. And
noblesse oblige isn't just the name of a

860
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,360
cologne. All right. Thank you very much.
That's our show. I want to thank Chris

861
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:23,780
Cobo, Sarah Esger, Kevin O. Westmore,
Trevor Adams drops every Monday on

862
00:56:23,780 --> 00:56:25,500
or listen wherever you get your
podcasts.

863
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,660
watch overtime on youtube thank you very
much everybody i appreciate it thank

864
00:56:31,660 --> 00:56:32,660
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